A British soldier remembers Trieste in 1946

[babatriestina]

. Few years ago they unveil a Plaque for you people in the garden of Miramare Castle.
Which, for my ignorance I am not able to publish the photo I would send
it to you privately. Provide someone else are quicker than me.

Eccola qua

[Ron]

Dear Maria, Baba et al

I could of course just say "thank you" for your latest images" (to include those sent to me by e-mail by Maria) but in fact I seem to be saying "thank you" an awful lot on this site simply because of the way I have been welcomed and helped in my research.

During my wartime stay in Italy, in the years 1943 to 1946, I picked up a fair working knowledge of the language but never had occasion to write things down, therefore my formal knowledge of the language was and is, I'm afraid, non-existant.

I sometimes, to Peter G's horror use GOOGLE to translate the odd phrase but, as you probably all know, that way is fraught with danger !

I genuinely would like to know how to say "many thanks" in Italian/Triestin.

GOOGLE says it is either "molti ringraziamenti (Many thanks) or

ringraziamenti mólto (Thanks a lot)

Your comments to this posting please

Ron

[babatriestina]

GOOGLE says it is either "molti ringraziamenti (Many thanks) or

ringraziamenti mólto (Thanks a lot)

The first one is good italian, the second one is a horrid mechanical translation

You could say

Molte grazie ( many thanks)
grazie tante (thanks a lot)
I miei (migliori) ringraziamenti
Grazie di cuore

I don't use Google for translations, but when I post in English i have my english dictionary at hand

[Ron]

Baba

In my earlier days I would have always automatically used "Molte grazie" but afterwards wondered whether or not this was "Pidgeon-Italian" and so was unsure whether it would be correct to use it today.

I am now spoilt for choice

grazie tante

Ron

ps If i'm ever in real difficulty I usually ask Peter anyway

[refolo]

What that I said?......I am in front with times.....but always behind others.

Ciao Maria aka Refolo

[Coce]

Hi Ron pardon my intervention, I would like to say that there is not such a
thing as PIDGEON Italian, it is good or bad Italian.
The phrase PIDGIN ENGLISH has originated in Australia and it is a speech used by the natives of Papua- New Guinee, a mixture of the Native and English languages. Ciao Coce

[babatriestina]

thing as PIDGEON Italian, it is good or bad Italian.
The phrase PIDGIN ENGLISH

I think Ron was making a joke ( per mi iera un witz)

[Ron]

Hi Ron pardon my intervention, I would like to say that there is not such a
thing as PIDGEON Italian, it is good or bad Italian.
The phrase PIDGIN ENGLISH has originated in Australia and it is a speech used by the natives of Papua- New Guinee, a mixture of the Native and English languages. Ciao Coce

Hi Coce

You are quite right of course..... there is no such thing as "Pidgin (or even Pigeon) English... it was just me being lazy and not picking my words

I have enough trouble with my poor Italian without wanting to get involved in Papua-New Guinea dialects

and Ciau to you too

[Ron]

Coce

Me again

I meant to write "Pidgeon-Italian" not Pidgeon-English".
As it stands it makes even less sense

Scusi

Ciau

Ron

[refolo]

RON!

Scusa Coce

(Scusi is conservative, suitable for stranger non as a friend).

Maria aka refolo

[Ron]

Maria and Coce

SCUSA

Ron

[refolo]

RON! '...... Maria and Coce are two person...so

scuseme

very hard? don't worry...you are excuse, dialects are very difficult.


Maria aka refolo

[PeterG]

Scusatemi ... spesso cerchiam una scusa per non studiare, ma qui si deve cercar di studiar la scusa.

Peter

[Capuzi garbi]

RON! '...... Maria and Coce are two person...so

scuseme

very hard? don't worry...you are excuse, dialects are very difficult.


Maria aka refolo

Then, if we want to split hairs....

Maria and Coce are two persons...therefore

scuseme

very hard? don't worry...you are excused, dialects are very difficult.

Actually I don't think dialects are any more difficult than any other languages, but the conjugation of the verbs might be

[refolo]

Don't worry Peter G!

He's a wonderful English teacher...he used to te be at the Melbourne University........he always pick on something, either to mortifidy me, or try to be funny. we are good triestini!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we love each other deeply.


Maria aka Refolo

[nanaia]

Ron, maybe we can do something. Nona Picia's son serves in the Italian Army and he promised me to ask the permission of giving me a CD with images taken inside the barrack. Who knows, if you let us have with a certain advance the date of your visit, we could even arrange a visit to the barrack.
Rely on you local Mata Hari

ciao, Nanaia

[Ron]

Ron, maybe we can do something. Nona Picia's son serves in the Italian Army and he promised me to ask the permission of giving me a CD with images taken inside the barrack. Who knows, if you let us have with a certain advance the date of your visit, we could even arrange a visit to the barrack.
Rely on you local Mata Hari

ciao, Nanaia

Ciau Nanaia

I love this site

It is most kind of you to ask around as you have done and yes I would certainly take you up on your suggestion.

G-d willing, I have already booked my next year's trip to Italy but for security reasons will let you have the actual dates "off site" nearer the time.
My wife and I plan to spend three days in Trieste and then move on by train to Venice for a further week's holiday.

I was last in Trieste & Venice some sixty years ago but my wife and my family paid a brief visit to Venice in 1966, also forty years ago !

Tell Nona Picia's son that if someone turns up at the Opicina barracks looking like this :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stor ... 4592.shtml
they should let him in without any problem

Ciau and thanks again

Ron

[Ron]

Friends

On re-looking at Page 15 of my album there is a photo of me looking down onto Piazza Goldini from the steps of what I now know is the Sandrinelli Tunnel. Could someone refresh my memory and tell me how I access these steps from above?

Next year, all being well, I hope to take a snap from the same point and I can't imagine that my wife and I would want to climb the steps from below

Ciau

Ron

[babatriestina]

Friends

On re-looking at Page 15 of my album there is a photo of me looking down onto Piazza Goldini from the steps of what I now know is the Sandrinelli Tunnel. Could someone refresh my memory and tell me how I access these steps from above?

Next year, all being well, I hope to take a snap from the same point and I can't imagine that my wife and I would want to climb the steps from below

Ciau

Ron

If you are by car, take Galleria Sandrinelli an the turn right, via Capitolina, the is even the possibility of finding a place to park your car
otherwise, you can go on foot up from Via del Monte, which begins in Piazza Benco in the middle of the Corso

[Ron]

Baba

Thanks for the info

Ron